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==Hack42-Mate==
'''(Very temporary version. Clean up and Lay-out are necessary. To be translated to English where needed.)'''
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My goal is to develop a recipe for an enjoyable [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mat%C3%A9 Mate-]based [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_drink soda]. If eventually found to be good (enough), we might decide to drink our own Mate instead of buying Club-Mate. Whether we do this or not, it is always possible to brew a batch for a party or large event. Who would say no to a keg of home-brew Mate?
  
Verbruik statistieken:
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;Notes:
sept: 4.3 aug 4.6 jul 4.6 jun 2.5  flessen per dag (0.5 liter)
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:Hack42 consumption statistics (2011):
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::sept: 4.3 aug: 4.6 jul: 4.6 jun: 2.5  (bottles (0.5 liter) per day)
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:Salt might [http://lifehacker.com/5846428/add-a-pinch-of-salt-to-coffee-to-curb-bitterness help against] bitterness
  
Zout tegen bitter: http://lifehacker.com/5846428/add-a-pinch-of-salt-to-coffee-to-curb-bitterness
 
 
==Hack42-Mate==
 
 
===First Iteration===
 
===First Iteration===
'''Recipe to bottle label key:'''
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In this iteration I tried to find out a basic recipe that works, or points towards the right direction.
1:B Schuimt heel erg veel en hard.
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I brewed six different bottles of Mate-soda, based on recipes I [[Gebruiker:Lurwah/Hack42-Mate#Found_Recipes|found]]. The plan was to make three basic recipes twice and brew the Mate for either five or seven minutes, resulting in six different batches. The three basic methods were:
2:E
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*Brew Mate, dissolve sugar. Add citric acid.
3:G
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*Brew Mate, caramelise then dissolve sugar. Add citric acid.
4:F
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*Add Mate to the caramelising sugar, then brew. Finally, add citric acid.
5:D
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This last method is based on the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZloolw_f3E traditional preparation] of yerba mate tea.
6:A
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All recipes were cooled to serving temperature and then carbonated with a SodaClub machine.
Mate: C
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I gathered a taste panel during one of our meets for a "blind" (they didn't know the recipes) tasting of the several batches I brewed. Of course, I also gave them a glass of the original Club-Mate (some people didn't like Club-Mate as much as Club-Mate...). They kindly gave their feedback, a summary of which can be found [[Gebruiker:Lurwah/Hack42-Mate#Results|below]] the recipes.
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====Recipes====
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Note: All degrees(°) are in centigrade.
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;Version 1.
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:1 liter water (90°)
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:1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
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:70 grams sugar (dissolved)
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:20 grams Mate (brew for five minutes)
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:(Note: Resulted in rapid expulsion of copious amounts of foam after adding CO2)
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;Version 2.
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:1 liter water (90°)
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:1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
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:70 grams sugar (caramelised, then dissolved)
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:20 grams Mate (brew for five minutes)
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;Version 3.
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:1 liter water (75°)
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:1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
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:70 gram sugar (caramelised with 20 grams Mate) (brew for five minutes)
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;Version 4.
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:1 liter water (75°)
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:1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
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:70 grams sugar (dissolved)
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:20 grams Mate (brew for seven minutes)
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;Version 5.
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:1 liter water (75°)
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:1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
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:70 grams sugar (caramelised, then dissolved)
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:20 grams Mate (brew for seven minutes)
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;Version 6.
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:1 liter water (70°)
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:1 gram citric acid (dissolved) (Possibly 2 grams; I was unsure whether I had added it.)
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:70 grams sugar (caramelised with 20 grams Mate) (brew for seven minutes)
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====Question form====
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The question is no longer accepting responses. It was available [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_GB&formkey=dFpIRktERGNIQnlrZzdGR2hnMTYtaEE6MQ#gid=0 here].
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====Results====
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;Bottle label to recipe key:
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:A:6
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:B:1
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:C:Original Club-Mate
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:D:5
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:E:2
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:F:4
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:G:3
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The Dutch results are [https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewanalytics?formkey=dFpIRktERGNIQnlrZzdGR2hnMTYtaEE6MQ#gid=0 here]. (Summary: Version 3&6 were most popular)<br>
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I have not yet seen anybody use the recipes in version 3 & 6 to make a Mate-soda. So for me it was an exciting result, that these turned out to be the better tasting ones. I decided after the tasting to work on these two recipes in the future.
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===Second iteration===
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;Build on Version 3&6.
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:Less sugar (50/60 grams per liter?)
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:More citric acid(2 grams per liter)
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:Caramelise further (Let the sugar turn orange-brown, then add Mate.)
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:Brew for 6 minutes at 70-75°C
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====Recipes II====
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Not yet available.
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====Question form II====
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The second question form voor Hack42-Mate can be found [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_GB&formkey=dE1BX2wyMG5LY0hIc2lnQm1uNTVLRmc6MQ#gid=0 here].
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====Results II====
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The second set of (Dutch) results are [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewanalytics?hl=en_GB&formkey=dE1BX2wyMG5LY0hIc2lnQm1uNTVLRmc6MQ here].
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===Third iteration===
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This time I discovered that making a syrup is easy. You then add this syrup to cold and carbonated water: instant Mate soda!
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:Detailed information is coming soon(ish)...
  
Versie 1.
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===Future iterations===
1 liter water (90 graden)
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;Plans:
1 gram citroenzuur (opgelost)
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:Further improve base recipe
70 gram suiker (opgelost)
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:Work on a [http://www.clubmate.de/cws/en/club-mate-cola/the-secret-of-flavor.87.html "natural flavour"] recipe
20 gram Mate (5 minuten trekken)
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:Research kegging and preservation techniques
Versie 2.
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:Research methods of carbonation (baking soda,[[#Fermentation|fermentation]](!),&c.)
1 liter water (90 graden)
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1 gram citroenzuur (opgelost)
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70 gram suiker (gekarameliseerd)
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20 gram Mate (5 minuten trekken)
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Versie 3.
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1 liter water (75 graden)
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1 gram citroenzuur (opgelost)
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70 gram suiker (gekarameliseerd met 20 gram Mate) (5 minuten trekken)
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Versie 4.
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1 liter water (75 graden)
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1 gram citroenzuur (opgelost)
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70 gram suiker (opgelost)
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20 gram Mate (7 minuten trekken)
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Versie 5.
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1 liter water (75 graden)
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1 gram citroenzuur (opgelost)
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70 gram suiker (gekarameliseerd)
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20 gram Mate (7 minuten trekken)
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Versie 6.
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1 liter water (70  graden)
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1 gram citroenzuur (opgelost) (mogelijk 2 gram???)
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70 gram suiker (gekarameliseerd met 20 gram Mate) (7 minuten trekken)
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===Next iteration===
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Verder met Versie 3&6.
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Minder suiker (50/60?)
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Meer citroenzuur (2 gram)
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Verder karameliseren (eerst oranje-bruin, dan Mate toevoegen)
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==The original Club Mate==
 
==The original Club Mate==
Water
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Water
Corn syrup
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Corn syrup
Sugar
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Sugar
Mate tea extract (0.4g mate in 100ml)
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Mate tea extract (0.4g mate in 100ml)
Citric acid
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Citric acid
Coffeine flavor (probably just raw coffeine extracted from coffee beans)
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Coffeine flavor (probably just raw coffeine extracted from coffee beans)
Natural flavor
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Natural flavor
Caramel color (E150d, the bad one)
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Caramel color (E150d, the bad one)
Carbondioxide
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Carbondioxide
  
 
==Found Recipes==
 
==Found Recipes==
po-ru.com:
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While researching I found some recipes of others trying to brew, or brewing, their own Mate soda. I collected those recipes on [[Gebruiker:Lurwah/Hack42-Mate/Found_Recipes|this page]].
Here’s the recipe for the syrup (yields about 500ml):
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50g yerba mate (with stems/con palos)
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500ml water (boiled and allowed to cool slightly)
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250g unbleached cane sugar
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5ml lemon juice
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To prepare the beverage, mix 1 part syrup with 5 parts carbonated water.
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noisebridge.net:
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==Fermentation==
Sudo pop is a yerba mate ginger beer.
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I decided to take a sidestep from making Hack42-Mate. I wondered if it would be possible to make an alcoholic version of my Mate recipe. The most natural way seemed to be a mead. The recipe was based on mead recipes I found [http://users.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus/mead-recipe.html here] and on the two best Mate recipes (3 & 6) from the First Iteration.<br>
* Taragui Mate con Palo
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For better readability of this page the process and result of my Mate mead can be found [[Gebruiker:Lurwah/Hack42-Mate/Fermentation|here]].
* 5 Gallon Carboy (secondary fermentation)
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* 5 Gallon of Pot
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* Bottle siphon, bottle capper, caps
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* 5 Gallon (Primary fermentation or mixing) bucket
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* airlocks, and miscellaneous brewing supplies
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1:1:1:2:10 ratio rosamonde yerba mate: limes & sweet lemons:ground ginger:panela & white sugar:H20
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In a small pot, boil ginger and sugar with some water.
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Boil remaining H20 in 5 gallon pot. Cool the big pot to 85C.
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Add Mate,steep for 5-7 minutes.
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Mix back the ginger-sugar mixture to the mate to taste.
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strain. strain. strain.
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Pour mixture into carboys to cool, chill, then carbonate.
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Make (Dave-Mate):
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1L water
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50mL (3-1/2 Tbsp or 20g) yerba maté tea leaves
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15mL agave syrup
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15mL simple syrup
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1.25g (1/4 tsp.) molasses
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1.25g (1/4 tsp.) guarana
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0.6125g (1/8 tsp.) citric acid
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Drop of orange bitters.
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Directions:
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Heat water to 75C/167F, then steep the yerba maté in the water for 5 minutes.
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Strain the resulting tea into another container. You may need to filter multiple times to remove all the sediment.
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Add the sweeteners, citric acid, bitters, and guarana.
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hackpittsburgh.org:
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==PICS!==
3 gallons water
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{{flickr|m|4|random|Hack42 Mate Soda}}
85g Chai mate tea (from Teavana)
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2.5 cups ‘raw’ cane sugar
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1.5g caffeine powder (handle with care!)
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CO2 (to taste)
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Terse instructions:
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Sterilize all equipment. Bring water to just under a boil, add tea and sugar, steep for 5-7 minutes. Cool, add caffeine powder, stir well, then transfer to keg. Float 15psi of CO2 over the mixture, then release the pressure valve and re-pressurize. Repeat 5 times (to purge oxygen from the keg. Let sit for 24 hours, to allow the soda to carbonate, then drop pressure to 7psi and enjoy!
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Huidige versie van 23 aug 2013 om 15:26

Project: Hack42-Mate
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Hack42-Mate

Naam Hack42-Mate
Door Lurwah
Status Uitvoer
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In which I try to develop a recipe for our own Club-Mate derivative.
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Hack42-Mate

My goal is to develop a recipe for an enjoyable Mate-based soda. If eventually found to be good (enough), we might decide to drink our own Mate instead of buying Club-Mate. Whether we do this or not, it is always possible to brew a batch for a party or large event. Who would say no to a keg of home-brew Mate?

Notes
Hack42 consumption statistics (2011):
sept: 4.3 aug: 4.6 jul: 4.6 jun: 2.5 (bottles (0.5 liter) per day)
Salt might help against bitterness

First Iteration

In this iteration I tried to find out a basic recipe that works, or points towards the right direction. I brewed six different bottles of Mate-soda, based on recipes I found. The plan was to make three basic recipes twice and brew the Mate for either five or seven minutes, resulting in six different batches. The three basic methods were:

  • Brew Mate, dissolve sugar. Add citric acid.
  • Brew Mate, caramelise then dissolve sugar. Add citric acid.
  • Add Mate to the caramelising sugar, then brew. Finally, add citric acid.

This last method is based on the traditional preparation of yerba mate tea. All recipes were cooled to serving temperature and then carbonated with a SodaClub machine. I gathered a taste panel during one of our meets for a "blind" (they didn't know the recipes) tasting of the several batches I brewed. Of course, I also gave them a glass of the original Club-Mate (some people didn't like Club-Mate as much as Club-Mate...). They kindly gave their feedback, a summary of which can be found below the recipes.

Recipes

Note: All degrees(°) are in centigrade.

Version 1.
1 liter water (90°)
1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
70 grams sugar (dissolved)
20 grams Mate (brew for five minutes)
(Note: Resulted in rapid expulsion of copious amounts of foam after adding CO2)
Version 2.
1 liter water (90°)
1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
70 grams sugar (caramelised, then dissolved)
20 grams Mate (brew for five minutes)
Version 3.
1 liter water (75°)
1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
70 gram sugar (caramelised with 20 grams Mate) (brew for five minutes)
Version 4.
1 liter water (75°)
1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
70 grams sugar (dissolved)
20 grams Mate (brew for seven minutes)
Version 5.
1 liter water (75°)
1 gram citric acid (dissolved)
70 grams sugar (caramelised, then dissolved)
20 grams Mate (brew for seven minutes)
Version 6.
1 liter water (70°)
1 gram citric acid (dissolved) (Possibly 2 grams; I was unsure whether I had added it.)
70 grams sugar (caramelised with 20 grams Mate) (brew for seven minutes)

Question form

The question is no longer accepting responses. It was available here.

Results

Bottle label to recipe key
A:6
B:1
C:Original Club-Mate
D:5
E:2
F:4
G:3

The Dutch results are here. (Summary: Version 3&6 were most popular)
I have not yet seen anybody use the recipes in version 3 & 6 to make a Mate-soda. So for me it was an exciting result, that these turned out to be the better tasting ones. I decided after the tasting to work on these two recipes in the future.

Second iteration

Build on Version 3&6.
Less sugar (50/60 grams per liter?)
More citric acid(2 grams per liter)
Caramelise further (Let the sugar turn orange-brown, then add Mate.)
Brew for 6 minutes at 70-75°C

Recipes II

Not yet available.

Question form II

The second question form voor Hack42-Mate can be found here.

Results II

The second set of (Dutch) results are here.

Third iteration

This time I discovered that making a syrup is easy. You then add this syrup to cold and carbonated water: instant Mate soda!

Detailed information is coming soon(ish)...

Future iterations

Plans
Further improve base recipe
Work on a "natural flavour" recipe
Research kegging and preservation techniques
Research methods of carbonation (baking soda,fermentation(!),&c.)

The original Club Mate

Water
Corn syrup
Sugar
Mate tea extract (0.4g mate in 100ml)
Citric acid
Coffeine flavor (probably just raw coffeine extracted from coffee beans)
Natural flavor
Caramel color (E150d, the bad one)
Carbondioxide

Found Recipes

While researching I found some recipes of others trying to brew, or brewing, their own Mate soda. I collected those recipes on this page.

Fermentation

I decided to take a sidestep from making Hack42-Mate. I wondered if it would be possible to make an alcoholic version of my Mate recipe. The most natural way seemed to be a mead. The recipe was based on mead recipes I found here and on the two best Mate recipes (3 & 6) from the First Iteration.
For better readability of this page the process and result of my Mate mead can be found here.

PICS!

www.flickr.com - tags:Hack42 Mate Soda (random) (max: 4)